What does it take to be a rule-maker in the global order, and can India make that transition?

In the latest episode of In Conversation with Salman Khurshid, India’s former External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid sits down with India’s former Foreign Secretary Ranjan Mathai for a candid look at India’s place in a changing world.

From his years in Iran and the evolution of India-US ties to the idea of strategic autonomy, Mathai draws on decades of diplomacy to unpack the pressures shaping Indian foreign policy today. The conversation spans India’s ties with its neighbors, BRICS 2026, the Russia relationship and the conflicts reshaping West Asia, and what it will take for India to have a greater say in shaping the global order. Watch the full episode for more.